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Post by joliepitt on Jul 14, 2011 3:41:50 GMT
I bought MSM the other day because I've seen many posts on curezone that their BOs have went away after months of continuous intake. This is my third day of drinking MSM powder and I can't tell for now if my condition has got any better. But I figured out that the rubber odor was due to cabbage. I stopped eating cabbage and the rubber odor has gone. I think it's the odorous type of sulfur in the cabbage that was the culprit. My bad I did not research first before diving in to a strict vegan diet.
Now, I'm back to meat and canned good stuff. Surprisingly, the rubber odor is almost gone yet the garlic/spicy and other smells are back. But I'd say it's better than smelling like burning rubber that leaks out and spread to the entire building.
Please do comment about the ff others have reported that cured them:
spirulina
digestive enzymes
probiotics
colostrum
l-glutamine
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Post by mpdela on Jul 14, 2011 13:29:17 GMT
Hi joliepitt,
I'm glad you figured out that it was the cabbage that caused the burnt rubber odor and that you're having positive results with that.
I would be careful with canned good because they are loaded with preservatives. I wonder if the preservatives have sulfur in addition to other chemicals. I know wine is loaded with sulfur compounds as a preservative - to fight against microbial growth.
Remember that the xenobiotic enzymes are a group of FMO3 metabolic enzymes that metabolize drugs/chemicals. If you might have one or more FMO3 enzyme deficiency (I'm not saying you do), then foods that are preserved in chemicals in a can would probably trigger an odor resonpse.
Regarding MSM, I have heard of at least 2 cases in which these persons had a severe adverse reaction to it. One person ended up in the hospital with severe reaction to it - the word poison comes to mind. I believe she stayed in the hospital for a week or longer; I don't remember because it was a few years back. Another person had severe vomiting and intestinal reaction for days after having taken it.
I would be wary of all the quick-fix drugs. Diet and probiotics are the way to go in my opinion.
María
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Post by jcc34 on Jul 14, 2011 16:36:50 GMT
Hi Joliepitt
Maybe you should experiment with your sulfur intake to see what happens. Remember cabbage is also a cruciferous veg, supposed to inhibit FM03, so that might also be a factor. Ironically MSM is apparently a sulfur compound.
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Post by dcba on Jul 15, 2011 16:56:41 GMT
I read it somewhere that "MSM" is the same substance as "bleach". Think it twice before anyone plans to try it.
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Post by joliepitt on Jul 18, 2011 5:33:47 GMT
hi mpdela, jcc34 and dcba: MSM is an organic sulfur and is odorless. Just want to update you with my MSM use... it's a week already and I am improving fast. Imagine yesterday I binged on roasted chicken, white rice, mangoes, Yakult and some porky stuff yet today I am not smelling anything. I am just happy today.  MSM is not for bleach cuz if it's then my teeth would have been whiter now. I've scoured the web for MSM and mostly I found benefits, no side effects. Its toxicity level is the same as water so why would I worry about it. Go figure MSM is the only 'good' sulfur for humans. It has no smell. Been taking a teaspoon of the powder daily and it's been a week and never have I smelled myself like rubber whereas cabbage (that's supposed to be healthy) has tons of bad sulfur that it made me stink to death. With that, I seriously encourage everyone to at least research about MSM. Because so far, it's been good. |
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Post by jcc34 on Jul 18, 2011 14:38:48 GMT
Hi Joliepitt
MSM is quite interesting having read up on it a little. Sulfur is an integral cellular component and essential nutrient, it is a component in amino acids and some B vitamins. According to a website it is good for joint pains, detoxification, bacteria and parasites allergies etc.
MSM is clearly not the only good form of sulfur and I don't think cabbage contains "bad" sulfur. Sulphites are bad forms of sulfur. It's possible you have a sulfur metabolism problem and MSM is not affected by that, but I'd make sure you're certain about having a sulfur problem before you jump to conclusions.
The detoxification claimed by MSM is interesting, it is claimed to increase cellular permeability, moving toxins out including allergens. It is not recommended if you have kidney problems and I doubt it has the toxicity of clean water. Let us know how you continue to get in with MSM, thanks.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 18, 2011 15:34:07 GMT
MSM sounds interesting. I eliminated much sulfur from my diet since dx with TMAU. My skin and hair have really taken a toll. After reading about it I may try it as a supplement since it is from a different source. Anyone with TMAU try it and have a problem?
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Post by jcc34 on Jul 18, 2011 17:52:43 GMT
Is cabbage particularly high in sulfur? I don't think it is.
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Post by dcba on Jul 18, 2011 21:43:08 GMT
Hi Joliepitt. I confused MSM with MMS (bleach). Sorry 'bout that. Great to know that you've found your solution.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 18, 2011 21:55:02 GMT
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Post by jcc34 on Jul 19, 2011 4:54:56 GMT
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Post by Sharon on Jul 19, 2011 17:23:02 GMT
JC, I received that info when dx, to avoid that list of veggies. It makes sense that anything that gets cooked or processed would be lower. Do you know the common thing between cruciferous, brassica and sulfur in those listed? I was told it was the sulfur? Hi Sharon So you're saying all cruciferous are high sulfur? According to this source, raw cabbage might be a little high but cooked seems fine. Cheese, eggs and meat seem the worst. |
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Post by jaxthemax on Jul 20, 2011 1:21:26 GMT
I'm so lost can someone please tell me what exactly does MSM stand for and what's so suppose to do?
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Post by mpdela on Jul 20, 2011 1:57:07 GMT
According to what Dr. John Cashman from the Human BioMolecular Research Institutes (HBRI) tells us in his interview, some FMO3 and DMEs, including CYP metabolizes amines, sulfides and phosphines. He says, Regarding MSM, if it does contain sulfur, this compound is broken down in the metabolic process by FMO3, and at some point of the metabolic cycle, I believe some forms of sulfur may turn into sulfide and then the metabolic cycle finishes changing it to a non-odorous, non-dangerous condition? This is something we would need to verify. Perhaps someone well versed in organic chemistry can shed some light on this metabolic process. If no one knows, my younger son is taking this class next semester, and I'll be studying this with him. I'll try to find out. If so, if someone has a faulty FMO3 enzyme that is responsible for this metabolic process, then the sulfur metabolic process may potentially not be completed, thus leaving sulfides in the body, something similar to TMA is not being oxidized to become TMAO with a faulty FMO3 enzyme in the case of TMAU. Could this be the reason why some sufferers have such adverse reaction to it (hospitalization with poisoned-like symptoms), while other do not have this negative effect? We need to keep in mind that not all enzyme deficiencies in FMO3 involve the TMA metabolizing enzyme, nor do the sulfide, nitrogen, phosphorous metabolizing enzyme. There are many FMO3s, and much research is needed to see which others may be faulty in sufferers. My recommendation is that if you do plan to use MSM, begin with small doses and increase it slowly to see how your FMO3 handles it over a week’s time to prevent the same serious side effects some sufferers have experienced. María |
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Post by jcc34 on Jul 20, 2011 3:54:44 GMT
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