gabby
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Post by gabby on Jul 13, 2011 0:31:26 GMT
Once I was diagnosed with TMAU, I went through all previous posts and compiled all the info I could find and get from other sufferers. Here is what has worked for me:
- shower with low ph soaps. I use Neutrogena acne wash, Olay exfoliating with sea salts, and then Lactacyd in that order, especially scrubbing multiple times where I'm prone to sweat. Still shower twice a day when I'm leaving the house.
- follow low choline diet. Cut out red meat, coffee, chocolate, packaged foods, cruciferous vegetables, fast food, soy, most dairy, whole grains, almost all spices, garlic, onion, and more. Once I established the base diet, took the time to slowly add in foods from the choline food list. I do not have a problem with tomatoes, though some people say they contain sulphur.
- supplements. Milk thistle, b2, folic acid, chlorophyll, and charcoal when necessary. A good multi twice a day. Others that do not directly apply.
- ph balanced deodarant, lotion, minimal unscented products on the skin.
I'll add to this if I think of anything else.
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mpdela
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Post by mpdela on Jul 13, 2011 6:54:32 GMT
Hi Gabby, Thanks for sharing this with us. This is what has also worked for my family. As we began adding more foods after the odor was controlled, we realized that each of us tend to have a different threshold. And not only that, but our threshold fluctuates, depending on stress levels, hormone levels, stress from being sick. So we find that when we are relaxed and not stressed or sick, we can add a little more to our diet without increasing odor symptoms. Thanks for sharing this Gabby. MarĂa
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gabby
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Post by gabby on Jul 14, 2011 0:40:35 GMT
Thanks Maria, ;D I also find since I've started bioidentical hormones my hot flashes have disappeared and my system seems much more stable. This has helped me greatly with figuring the diet. Now if I could just eliminate illness and stress!
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Post by roxy on Jul 16, 2011 5:50:04 GMT
Which deodrants and lotions are best? You have cut out alot of foods. When you first started this what did you eat on a typical day? Thank you for your story, it gives me hope
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gabby
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Post by gabby on Jul 17, 2011 1:19:22 GMT
The first thing I did was printed the USDA choline reference list. This is also in the files section > www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=6232 > > Then I went through and crossed off all the items we know to avoid: > > Fish > Red meat/organ meat > Beans, peas, legumes > Coffee, chocolate, alcohol > Soy > Corn > Peanut butter > Whole grains > Cruciferous veggies > > Then I go through and cross off the food items 'high' in the other compounds that are processed by the fmo3 enzyme. If you don't limit these, they will overload what enzyme activity you may have and cause odors at much lower levels of choline, and may cause odors of their own. > > Here is a link to foods that are high in sulfur compounds: > www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/high-sulfur-sulphur-food-list/> > Foods high in phosphorous and alternatives > www.mayoclinic.cohealth/food-and-nutrition/HQ01212 > > And nitrogen: rule of thumb, the higher the protein the higher the nitrogen. > www.livestrong.com/article/313163-what-foods-are-high-in-nitrogen/> > And per the last webinar from eurordis, tyramine > www.virtualtrials.com/pcvdiet.cfm > > Was also told cartnine by several sufferers, but this lines up with items high in protein/nitrogen so don't worry about this, its covered. > > Then I keep a list of foods low in each on the fridg, and avoid eating too much of these at once. > > Once you see results, decide what foods are important to YOU and add back in at moderate amounts. This is not a diet, but a lifestyle. I have personally found that peanut butter and cruciferous veggies are NEVER good for me. > > The USDA recommended levels of choline per day for men is 550 for men and 425 for women. I stay about 200-300mg day. > > Per the researcher on the last webinar (and a second researcher earlier) tuna does not contain free TMA and has less choline than a piece of chicken. TMAO should not be a problem if you buy dolphin friendly tuna, because the way it was explained to me, they freeze it immediately on the boat, limiting the amount of TMA that can be created by bacteria on the fish. > > > Ingredients to watch out for: > Lethicin (any kind) > Phosphatidyl choline > Anything starting with 'phos' > Disodium guanylate > Among others... > > There is info in the files section about recommended supplements and qty's, I personally don't use copper chlorophyllin or charcoal. > > Hope this helps.
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Post by heavenscent on Jul 25, 2011 3:29:20 GMT
Thanks for info Gabby. What kind of rice? Its been a big discrepancy between white or brown. And did u eat any fruits? Also how long were u on the diet before u noticed a change? what other foods have you added back into your diet without the odor?
Thanks alot for you help!
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Post by mtb2490 on Jul 25, 2011 5:12:34 GMT
I jus had white rice and pork loin and had no reaction at all ;D
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