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Post by blessed11 on Jan 24, 2012 2:36:10 GMT
It seems as though several people are concerned with egg whites, because of sulphur content. Do a lot of you find that you have a problem with egg whites causing you an odor? I ask because I have included them as a part of my diet (I need the protein). I have them 2-3 times a week. But, I will stop if need be. I don't want to sabotage myself.
Thank you EDI
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gabby
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Post by gabby on Jan 24, 2012 3:35:12 GMT
Stinky, Whole eggs are probably one of the worst things you can eat but egg whites very low in choline, and some of us eat them a few times a week as a protein source.
EDI I don't have a problem on occasion, or using egg whites where eggs are called for when I'm cooking or baking. I would not eat them every day though. That's just me.
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Post by bethemiracle on Jan 24, 2012 4:38:42 GMT
Hi, Gang! Thanks for all the feedback about the list of foods! We could tweak it as we need to. Obviously, please, everybody should just eat what they are comfortable eating. I am going by low-choline content and also by what Leonor ate when she did her diet. She ate egg whites and Rice Krispies. I agree, Pop-Tarts are probably the worst choice on the list, but I think after 2 months or so, every now and then I might go for one if I'm having a hard time. It's better than totally falling off the diet. And as long as your choline count is down, I think it should be fine. I understand about the sugar, but there's not much sugar in this diet. Hopefully it won't be a problem. Maybe when I have the Jello I'll have the sugar-free Jello. I think I'm going to plan to eat the sugar-free Jello when I really need something sweet, or the Crispix or Rice Krispies. I have not had egg whites in months because I was staying away from them too, but the more folks I talk to, a couple egg whites a couple times a week seem to be okay. I won't go anywhere near an egg yolk! I will probably eat some egg whites though because I think I'm going to need protein too, for several reasons. Number one, to try to be a little healthy, and number two, it helps fill you up and keep you full. I would get protein before when I allowed myself cheats because I would eat some sausages, or even cheese or beef every now and then on a cheat, so I didn't feel protein was a problem. But being on this strict diet and chicken as our only protein source, I think I'm going to open myself up to egg whites. If you all want to try, we could stay away from them for a couple weeks and then add them in and see if we get any bad consequences. Last week I had a very had time getting started. I made it through today without a cheat!!! so I am going to officially start today, no turning back, with no cheats for two months, then re-assess and see if I want to go longer. A couple other things: Can't find a choline content on Rice Dream, or rice milk. Does anybody have any idea? Also, I'm having a little difficulty with the grams-ounces conversion, because it could be different for everything. Basically, a lot of things, like chopped veggies, seem to be about 3.5 ozs. is 100 grams. And this seems kind of crazy, but I've done this math over and over, and it seems 100 grams of rice and pasta, cooked, is 2 cups! Seems like a lot, but that's what I'm getting. Please let me know if I'm way off!!! I want to get the conversions and see how much of the different foods I can eat so it will be easy as I proceed and I won't have to think about it everytime. I want to know when I have a bowl of Rice Krispies with Rice Milk how much choline I've had so I can plan my meals and do it easily because I already know what everything is. I'm even writing it all down so it's quick reference. I think it might have been Sharon who gave the chicken soup recipe. It sounded good! If we want we could post our meals for the day every now and then. I had a very strange day today because I didn't even eat until like 5:00 p.m., so not a normal day, but I ate rice, green peppers, some tomatoes and sea salt today. I'm sure I'll eat more than that tomorrow. Thanks! Wendy
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Post by shania12345 on Jan 24, 2012 22:50:45 GMT
I found this chicken soup recipe in a magazine
4 cups chicken broth pepper 1 medium carrot,sliced 1 stalk celery,sliced 1/2 cup uncooked extra wide egg noodles 1 cup shredded cooked chicken or turkey
1. heat broth,pepper,carrot and celery in 2 quart saucepan over medium high heat to a boil.
2. Stir noodles and chicken in saucepan. Reduce heat to medium. Cook 10 min. or until noodles are tender,stirring occassionally.
Does anyone know how to incorporate rice if we wanted to substitute rice for noodles?
Shania
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Post by adrianmcc on Jan 25, 2012 3:10:08 GMT
Beth: 1 oz is around 30 grams. Most serving suggestions on the back of packets in the UK say 75grams per person for rice and pasta. This is a good size serving.
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Post by bethemiracle on Jan 25, 2012 3:36:24 GMT
Gabby, I see what you mean with the difference with ground turkey breast. I think the cottage cheese would be fine. I personally might wait the 2 months before I eat it. Just for one reason, really. I've never been able to go without cheese, and I'm going to try it now while I'm being so strict. I might change my mind after doing this for a while and eat it, though.
Shania, I would just substitute the noodles with the rice and just eyeball it ;D
Adrian, Thanks for the conversion!
I am all stocked up and ready for the week. I have a bunch of rice cooked and in the fridge, chicken marinating in lemon and black pepper to cook tomorrow for the week, I chopped and baked sweet potatos so I could just heat up small amounts every so many days. I made a big pan of Jello. I stocked up on the Rice Dream in the smaller box. You can keep it in the cupboard and put it in the fridge when you open it, and because it's smaller it doesn't go bad before you can finish it. I've been buying grape tomatoes. You don't even have to chop them to eat them raw, or if you're cooking with other veggies I just throw them in the pan raw and they cook up and burst open and are really good!
Wendy
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Post by blessed11 on Jan 25, 2012 17:06:15 GMT
Thank you Wendy and Gabby, I will stick to egg whites twice a week. I have tried the "yolk free" egg noodles. I didn't notice a difference in the taste. I like them. However, I may try to stick with rice noodles and rice for the next couple of months. Hopefully by then there will be noticeable results. Then I will add one or two things in at a time, and try to track reactions. Pasta will be one of the first things added, I LOVE it. For those eating the yolk free noodles, can you let us know how you are doing on them, if you notice odor or reactions from others? Also, how often are you eating them? Thank you all for your patience and answers to the many questions. It is appreciated. EDI
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Post by bethemiracle on Jan 26, 2012 8:18:37 GMT
Okay. I'm afraid I'm getting a little discouraged already. I know I am being very mathematical about this, but my goal was to stay under 100 grams of choline a day. I was going over some very precise meal plans and I"m having a VERY hard time, almost impossible, keeping it under 100 grams, especially if you eat even 1/4 cup of chicken during the day! I can't even imagine how much choline I was eating when I was still watching it but wasn't keeping such an exact eye on it! Rice is really low in choline, but then the calories really add up with that, at 200 calories per cup! Pasta is even worse, but sometimes it's worth it. I've never noticed how many calories are in pasta! Seems some of the lowest choline choices are fresh pears and berries, peppers, eggplant, celery, cucumbers, fresh tomatoes, cereal (Crispix/Rice Kispies), Jello, and I hope this isn't bad, but English muffins with jam. Rice is a good low choline, but kinda high in calories! I guess until I find out I'm going to count rice milk like regular milk, although I know it's better. Better safe than sorry. So approx. 19 g choline per 1/2 c, I think. Here are some "low" combinations I've come up with: (These are approximates.) (Calories/choline) (The veggies are fresh, sautee'd in nonstick pan) 1 English muffin with 2 tbsp's jam (AllFruit) 205 cals/20 chol. 1 c. pears, 1 c. strawberries 50 cals/18 chol. 2 c. Crispix/Rice Krisp., 1/2 c. rice milk 280 cals/25 chol. 1 c. rice, 1 c. tomato, 1 c. eggplant, 1 tbsp olive oil 363 cals/25 chol. 1/4 c. chix, 1 c. carrots, 1 c. celery (maybe soup?) 133 cals/45 chol. 3 egg whites, 1 c. peppers, 1 c. tomatoes, 1 tbsp olive oil 130 cals/27 chol. 1/4 c. chix, 1 c. rice, 1 c. peppers, 1 tbsp. olive oil 428 cals/35 chol. 1 c. rice, 1 c. tomatoes, 1 c. peppers, 1 tbsp o oil 415 cals/24 chol. 1 c. tomatoes, 1 c. cucumbers, 2 tbsp o oil (salad)330 cals/24 chol. 1 c. Jello with berries or any fruit ?/? - low! The choline adds up so quick! The portions are pretty generous but I just wanted to round off to even amounts, and if we eat less, then the count is less! This is at least something to work off of with a quick glance. I think it's harder to feel "full" or stay "full" without protein. My plan was to probably do three meals and a snack in the evening, or mayb just three meals, if that's too much. To me, Romain and zucchini don't seem worth their choline count, and pasta and Pop-Tarts don't seem worth the calorie count, but I may indulge if I'm desprate! Olive oil adds a lot of calories! Would low calorie spray oil be acceptable???, although I know the olive oil is good and healthy. Wendy
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Post by adrianmcc on Jan 26, 2012 14:22:37 GMT
Wendy: what database did you use for the choline content? The USDA database?
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Post by shania12345 on Jan 26, 2012 16:20:37 GMT
Wendy,
are you concerned about calories or choline or both?
Shania
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Post by bethemiracle on Jan 26, 2012 18:29:37 GMT
Yes, I used the USDA database. I'm not sure if it's the latest, updated one though. Then I input the food into a calorie counter online and it gave me a cup and gram measurement. Then I tried to take the grams per cup and come up with the choline count. So some are kind of an estimate, but I think they should be pretty close. Like if 1 cup of something was 144 grams and the choline count was 6 per 100 grams, I would assign the cup of food 9 grams of choline. I thought it was easier for me to have the counts by cup so I could just use my measuring cup and know how much I'm getting. I hope I've done it right! I am concerned with choline more important than calories, but I also hope not to gain weight. So I thought while I was noting all the "counts" that I would note calories too. I might be being a little too strict but I was trying to keep each meal around or under 400 calories. For instance, if you take pasta, at 390 calories, and put 1 tbsp of olive oil at 120 calories with it for a pasta salad, you are immediately at 510, and then maybe add 1/2 cup peppers and 1/2 cup tomatoes you're at 550 calories. Which if you did that kind of calorie count at every meal you're at 2200 calories for the day. But I guess you would be fine if your other meals were lower calories, which they most likely would be. If weight is not an issue, that's awsome! I am not one of the lucky folks who can eat whatever they want and not gain weight. I always have to watch. I guess I just figured if I'm being so restrictive with my diet I might as well lose some weight too. Or at least not gain. If we do this diet for 2 months, that takes us to March 19th, if we count starting this past Monday. If we go another month, that will be the middle of April, just in time for spring!!! ;D We could be smelling good and looking good, I hope! As I said earlier, I cannot detect my own odor so it's hard for me to tell what's working, etc., but I can already tell you by being on this diet all the time and not cheating it is going to give me a freeing feeling socially. I usually plan my cheats around my social activity and my social activity around my cheats or being nervous of social occasions because I've eaten something I shouldn't have. But by not cheating I don't have to worry. say, when my husband springs a social occasion on me, because now I know I haven't cheated and hopefully I'm "okay" at anytime. Do you know what I mean? I was also thinking last night that we have to remember the most important ingredient that Leonor talked about when she did her diet that worked for her, and that is prayer. Wendy
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Post by bethemiracle on Jan 27, 2012 2:59:37 GMT
I agree with the calories. I never lost weight, but this time I'm at least not going to gain, and maybe even lose!!! If I'm watching this closely and being so deprived, I hope to lose weight too.
Good info on the oil!
Gabby, your day sounded yummy!
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Post by shania12345 on Jan 27, 2012 14:01:28 GMT
When I did the diet last year,I lost 15 pounds. I gained it back after I went off the diet Gabby, Did you make the stuffed peppers recipe from the Yahoo groups recipe list? I've made it before but didn't use alot of tomato sauce since some people say tomatoes make them smell. I thought you had your odor under control with the diet? I think I'd be afraid to eat the chick fila sandwich since I don't know what's in it. Shania
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Post by shania12345 on Jan 27, 2012 22:53:57 GMT
Gabby,
did you use ground turkey to make stuffed peppers? When I was making it,I was using hunt's tomato sauce which has only a few ingredients in it.
I can't say I lose weight easily,I lost about a pound a week when I was doing the low choline diet. I was eating white rice and pasta as well.
Shania
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Post by gabby on Jan 28, 2012 18:12:49 GMT
Shania,
I make sure to use ground turkey breast because I'm unsure whether ground turkey could contain organ meat.
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