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Post by Relief on Dec 9, 2017 14:24:43 GMT
I have secondary TMAU. I tried Nullo, zinc, charcoal tablets, probiotics, changing diet, body mint, new soaps and deodorant, gas ex, Apple cider vinegar and charcoal soap and b2 tablets. None of it worked. I searched and searched and came across baking soda. It works!!! That is likely what is helping this person as well. The only down side is that it doesn’t last all day. I bought some 650 mg baking soda pills on Amazon. All I do now is limit spicy food, dairy, red meat, alcohol and coffee and drink plenty of water. No other diet restrictions. I now take two digestive enzymes, three probiotic pills, one kelp pill, two zinc pills. This is all helping to kill bad bacteria in my gut over time but it doesn’t help the smell right away. Only one 650 mg baking soda pill taken in warm water with a teaspoon of honey every three hours works to mask my smell. I actually work a full eight hours now and no reaction and you used to be able to smell me feet away. Baking soda will likely help you save your job and give you back your life. That is why a doctor really needs to take TMAU seriously as a Ph imbalance.
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Post by jacqui lewis on Mar 13, 2018 13:52:07 GMT
where can we buy the pill or medicine that cures this disease as the web link takes you to a site that only scientists can order to trail the products on humans.
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Post by C on Mar 18, 2018 16:14:53 GMT
Kelp will temporarily remedy the odor, but is not a true solution, and may cause further imbalances down the line. (Especially considering the common kelp supplements available are getting stronger and stronger. Humans aren't meant to eat that much of it, particularly strong astringent varieties like A. nodosum.) Iodine itself will speed the body's metabolism of nitrogenous compounds, which may seem like a good thing, but too much can be depleting, just like stimulant drugs. Not everyone needs more iodine. With this in mind, use consciously and with caution.
All caffeine sources are heavy sources of nitrogenous compounds that may contribute to the liver's nitrogen load and increase the problem of body odor in those who exhibit strong urine-like, fishy, or sulfur odors. Reduce, limit, or cut out: coffee, tea, yerba mate, guayusa, guarana, energy drinks, cola, chocolate, cacao, etc. Of those, yerba mate, green/white tea, and espresso are the lesser evils, as they come along with astringent principles/antioxidants or alkaline minerals (ex: high potassium in yerba mate) that help to counteract the production of excessive amounts of TMA. However, some may find they burden the kidneys, which may increase the production or make the smell worse, and thus my former statement wouldn't apply for these individuals.
Zinc can help, especially in the form of zinc oxide, but this shoudln't be overdone, as the body can be thrown into imbalance through overuse, resulting in chronic kidney and liver problems and mineral imbalances. Trading one problem for another shouldn't be the goal - also a reason to avoid synthetic enzymes and drugs.
Baking soda (Sodium bicarbonate) can help some, but here we have the same issue as with zinc/zinc oxide. Use baking soda wisely, and don't overdo it. Add it to spring water or another high mineral water, and don't take it around meal times.
As per ancient medical systems and folk medicine, for body odor that matches TMAU in description: avoid high-protein foods, limit sulfur sources (crucifers, nightshades like tomato, etc), avoid vinegar, stimulants, and "spices." Try spicing food with herbs, turmeric, and "non-spicy" seasonings instead. Try herbal cleansers that have a "cooling" quality - meaning herbs that have astringent and bitter tastes, which help the kidneys and liver to deal with nitrogenous compounds and process wastes. (This doesn't count for high-purine plants like coffee, guarana, etc.) High-silica foods (usually bran, hulled barley, hard/shiny seeds like millet, amaranth, quinoa) along with limited meat intake will help, as will certain fibers like psyllium seed husk (sold as "psyllium" fiber - choose organic, as these plants are sprayed very heavily with all manner of chemicals). Eating smaller portions, skipping one meal and all snacks (so, 1-2 meals per day, called by some "intermittent fasting"), limiting sugar intake (for its negative effects on the kidneys), trying triphala or dandelion root, chewing fresh parsley after meals - all of those have been recommended. Morning exercise to get the body sweating (BEFORE bathing) has helped a lot of people.
This "genetic" disorder is nothing more than a tendency towards a certain imbalance; it's not a sentence to smelling bad forever. Certain people may have to try harder to avoid triggering this particular chemical imbalance, what science is calling the incurable TMAU. The tendency to develop a strong body odor and have difficulty processing nitrogenous compounds and methylated compounds when they're excessive may be inherited, but this doesn't mean you'll have to fight against body odor forever. All it means is that your body has different tolerance levels for certain nutritional substances, and that over a long period of negative eating patterns and unhealthy living, you may land yourself in a difficult situation that takes an equally long time to fix. And the fix is simple: the the opposite of what you've been doing, and let your body play catch up. Give it a break on the things that are overloading your liver, kidneys, etc. And understand that the substances that trigger the body odor may have accumulated in your tissues, meaning you have to step back from food triggers and bad habits and give your body a longer period of time to "dig out" the junk and process it. Cleansing isn't a bad idea, and neither is fasting, exercise, sauna therapy/sweat lodges (watch your electrolytes), or even simple remedies like chlorophyll, which over time lead to dramatic turn-arounds for all bad body odor cases. Just don't expect immediate cures, and you won't get disappointed. There's no immediate cure to any problem developed over many years.
Good luck guys, and be wary of synthetic nutrients, enzymes, and drugs. There hasn't to my knowledge been a chemical synthesized by man that's fully compatible with the body. In other words, they're all bound to cause issues - side effects and imbalances - whether quickly or eventually.
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Post by C on Mar 18, 2018 16:25:51 GMT
One more thing, to Relief (guest poster):
TMAU is essentially a cofactor or catalyst problem, resulting in oxygen starvation. The liver (and possibly other organs) is not receiving an adequate amount of oxygen, and thus is not oxidizing the odor-producing compound that builds up. Essentially what we have is cofactor deficiency and nitrogen poisoning. This is why things like iodine help, but doesn't solve the root problem. It increases oxygen metabolism and respiratory rate. The bicarbonate may temporarily help for the same reasons: CO2 taken up from the sodium bicarbonate (after digestion) improves respiration in some people, and oxygen-carrying capacity of red blood cells. It also limits the growth of some anaerobes that cause too much fermentation in the bowels. For this reason, improving blood quality and oxygen delivery in the body is key, and eating a varied, healthy diet that includes herbs (not just medicinal herbs, but spice herbs and less common plant foods - not just the same variety of green leaves you find in salad packages), root vegetables (how about chicory, parsnip, etc?), and trace mineral sources is important. And in any case, exercise that improves circulation, blood health, and lung health is especially required, except for in the most emaciated patients (who shouldn't be focused on their odor in the first place).
All just my opinion. Hope this helps!
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Post by Live Free on Apr 12, 2018 2:03:55 GMT
Hey C that is phenomenal information thanks for sharing! what do you think about the tmau antibody? People have mentioned it and how come no one has tried it or posted more information on it... maybe it is a price issue. Just wondering if you or anyone else has has more information on these antibodies found on abcam and other websites. thanks!
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Post by Guest responder on Apr 30, 2018 9:19:11 GMT
I am very suspicious of the claims made about a pill. Note that an Enzyme is not an Antibody and for anyone to mix these up undermines anything they claim. Some research on the internet shows how difficult it is to make or extract the enzyme FMO3, stability of enzyme and its levels would affect its effectiveness. Good luck to those involved in its research and production.
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Post by GOD on May 5, 2018 2:43:56 GMT
The anti fmo3 antibodies from abcam work for tmau. everyone who has tmau can be cured by taking these antibodies and injecting them into the bloodstream via syringe. This is the cure.
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Post by Lee on Jun 13, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
One more thing, to Relief (guest poster): TMAU is essentially a cofactor or catalyst problem, resulting in oxygen starvation. The liver (and possibly other organs) is not receiving an adequate amount of oxygen, and thus is not oxidizing the odor-producing compound that builds up. Essentially what we have is cofactor deficiency and nitrogen poisoning. This is why things like iodine help, but doesn't solve the root problem. It increases oxygen metabolism and respiratory rate. The bicarbonate may temporarily help for the same reasons: CO2 taken up from the sodium bicarbonate (after digestion) improves respiration in some people, and oxygen-carrying capacity of red blood cells. It also limits the growth of some anaerobes that cause too much fermentation in the bowels. For this reason, improving blood quality and oxygen delivery in the body is key, and eating a varied, healthy diet that includes herbs (not just medicinal herbs, but spice herbs and less common plant foods - not just the same variety of green leaves you find in salad packages), root vegetables (how about chicory, parsnip, etc?), and trace mineral sources is important. And in any case, exercise that improves circulation, blood health, and lung health is especially required, except for in the most emaciated patients (who shouldn't be focused on their odor in the first place). All just my opinion. Hope this helps!
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Post by Black rose on Mar 13, 2019 12:04:10 GMT
If it has finally worked for someone please let us know.... I really need a break through to this night mare.I can test it for you if possible....
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Post by Black rose on Mar 13, 2019 12:06:33 GMT
How do I get it please
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Post by Qwerty on Oct 5, 2021 23:44:38 GMT
The antibodies made on abcam are for research purposes or possibly diagnostic testing.
If you were to somehow order them (you need to be a legit research business or university to buy there), you can't do anything with it.
If you eat it, it will degrade and likely make you sick.
If you inject it, it can literally kill you.
EVEN IF you did all of this safely and it somehow did its "job", using the antibody would only interfere with the enzyme causing it to not work if anything, which is the opposite of what you want to happen. Antibody binds to the target in question. Binding to it can inhibit the enzyme function.
That's how antibodies work. They bind, they don't "add" function.
If you were to buy the enzyme FMO3 itself from somewhere, the thing your body is lacking, it likely gets degraded any way you try to take it. Let alone cost you likely cost a literal fortune.
Bottom line, these are not pharmaceutical/food grade materials and can cause serious injuries. They are not formulated for consumption or studied at all for human use.
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