Post by Arun Nagrath on Nov 3, 2011 19:49:44 GMT
From Archive 16/09/09
bbsux
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Ok not to be jealous or anything but....
My mom hasnt brushed her teeth in 20 years... She barely has any teeth left , the ones she has left are all black.. I know not a pretty picture but she is afraid of dentist.. , Mouthwash?she doesnt even know what it tastes like .... You wanna hear the crazy thing ...she never has BB , and i mean never... She eats any kind of food she wants but i never see anyone do the same thing when she talks as when i talk...
My sister brushes her teeth once a day... NEVER flosses ... has a bad front tooth that is clearly visible as black... GUESS WHAT ! NO BB or any kind of odor.
My mom sister take shower 3-4 times a week ... nobody ever complains or smells anything on them.
Here is my story.. I take a shower every freaking morning before i go out, i make sure my clothes smell nice. I go to dentist for cleaning every 6months. I take care of my caveties. I brush twice a day and floss every night. My breath is shit and i smell bad. I would never want my family to be like me, i love them but what is going on here. This just tells me that brushing and flossing is almost useless when it comes to BB. FACE IT PEOPLE there is something wrong with us inside so for those that are brushing their teeth 4-5 times a day...you are wasting your time!
#2
19th September 2009
Bnow
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 29
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Hi bbsux,
I understand how frustrating it can be to see others not take care of themselves as well as you do and they don't have what it seems to be plaguing you. For me it started with acne. My sister rarely washed her face and yet had no pimples. Now she only takes a bath in the morning and goes to work and comes back home without smelling. I start smelling 15 minutes after showering or brushing my teeth. IT TRULY SUCKS!
Keep your head up! Hopefully TMAU sufferers can speak out to anyone who will listen and raise money so these researchers can be motivated to find a cure.
TTYL,
Bnow
#3
19th September 2009
Harlequin
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 123
Blog Entries: 2
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
bbsux, you do this for yourself and not for others.
It's good to always be hygienic, and trust me having to pluck out every single rotten tooth and having to use dentures is not enjoyable.
And you said it yourself, "not a pretty picture"
#4
19th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Yes, in my experience, smells due to poor hygiene are mainly attributable to tramps who live on the streets/ shelters and also to schizophrenics, sometimes also severly depressed people.
It is also attributable to people from backgrounds where daily bathing/ brushing the teeth is not practiced. It is rarely attributable to people like us. This is just a misperception among people who react angrily this way towards us because they don't know what else to say.
Acne is a very similar example, it is usually not due to any hygiene problem but can be worsened if there is a hygiene problem ASWELL. I used to have terrible acne in my youth and this persisted even into my 30s! I reduced it by avoiding all foods containing sugar, even natural foods like fruit. I also had to stay away from cream, cheese, and any fried food. Have any of you who had acne found you could reduce it by avoiding certain foods? What foods were these?
Arun
#5
19th September 2009
yolievrdrmn
Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 76
Blog Entries: 3
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
White bread for sure. Wheat bread causes no problem. Thank God for Subway and chicfila restaurants. They serve their stuff on wheat. Wish Pizza Hut/dominoes had a wheat bread pizza.
#6
19th September 2009
Bnow
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 29
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Hi All,
I use to believe that eating too much chocolate gave me pimples. However, I found that controlling my hormone levels (with birth control pills) helped my acne. I believe this was the major problem and not necessarily my diet or my hygiene practices. Of course what we eat and how we cleanse our acne prone area affects to some degree if acne continues to appear. But I truly believe it is not the CAUSE of acne. I hope this is the same with TMAU. I believe if we control or eradicate the source of the odor (i.e. our livers inability to metabolize TMA, or the microbes that make TMA) then we will finally see results. Changing our diet and hygiene practices help but definitely doesn’t solve the underlining problem.
Sincerely,
Bnow
#7
20th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Yolie, well thankfully the acne is no longer an issue on my face but I still get the occassional zit on my back
Bnow, hormones definitely play a role in acne, oestrogens generally make it better whereas progesterone makes it worse. This is why the pill (contains oestrogen) generally makes acne better whereas the minipill (contains progesterone) makes it worse.
#8
23rd September 2009
bbsux
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbsux
Ok not to be jealous or anything but....
My mom hasnt brushed her teeth in 20 years... She barely has any teeth left , the ones she has left are all black.. I know not a pretty picture but she is afraid of dentist.. , Mouthwash?she doesnt even know what it tastes like .... You wanna hear the crazy thing ...she never has BB , and i mean never... She eats any kind of food she wants but i never see anyone do the same thing when she talks as when i talk...
My sister brushes her teeth once a day... NEVER flosses ... has a bad front tooth that is clearly visible as black... GUESS WHAT ! NO BB or any kind of odor.
My mom sister take shower 3-4 times a week ... nobody ever complains or smells anything on them.
Here is my story.. I take a shower every freaking morning before i go out, i make sure my clothes smell nice. I go to dentist for cleaning every 6months. I take care of my caveties. I brush twice a day and floss every night. My breath is shit and i smell bad. I would never want my family to be like me, i love them but what is going on here. This just tells me that brushing and flossing is almost useless when it comes to BB. FACE IT PEOPLE there is something wrong with us inside so for those that are brushing their teeth 4-5 times a day...you are wasting your time!
Wow i kinda wrote this while i was frustrated...please forgive me if it seems a bit negative.
As far as acne goes, i used to have acne but it got much much better after i almost stopped eating all sugar and dairy. My face is not 100% clear, but if and when i do get a pimple its a small one and not a big deal.
Honestly acne is the least of my concerns right now...i am focused on getting this bad smell thats pretty much ruining my life.
#9
23rd September 2009
Sharon
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 230
Blog Entries: 9
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Bbsux it gets very frustrating. It seems for many of us that frequent scrapping the tongue helps more than brushing 5x a day.
Arun can explain it better but I understand it is from certain bacteria that some of us have on the back of our tongues. The bacteria we have acquired there like to live in the tongue where there is no air. The scrapping removes the mucous and trapped food so air gets to them and they can't live and produce odors.
I always wondered if those bacteria produce that thick stinky mucous to protect themselves?
This doesn't replace brushing and flossing because it may be different bacteria that create cavities?
#10
24th September 2009
afunkydamsel
Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 52
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
bbsux:
I feel your pain! Bad breath sucks, totally! I brush, floss and scrape my tongue and nothing works. It is quite discouraging when people react to my breath and body odor before they even get a chance to know me...because before I can get the words out of my mouth my breath is hitting them in the face. LOL! (I know, it's not funny!)
Seriously, don't be sad about it. I know that this easier said than done. But, God made you this way for a reason. Sometimes I think that God wants me to watch and see the folks that shun me because of my odors. He's keeping a log, through me, of all that are naughty (and those that are nice)...for reasons unknown to me. All I have to do is remember that He is on my side as long as I continue to trust Him and do the right things in my life.
As I type this, I remember all the nights I have cried because of all of the ridicule I receive...and I know that living with this is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. And, I have had this body and breath odor for all 42 years of my life and it is still hard as hell to deal with. I guess what I am trying to say is that some days will be better than others. But, whatever you do don't let this thing destroy you or your spirit...no matter what!
I hope that all of that made sense to you. I pray that it helped in some way. And, if nothing else, please know that you are not alone.
Melani.
#11
25th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
BBsux, I wish I had the answer for treating this kind of internal body odour however I feel it is carried around the body in the blood. Antiperspirants only reduce my underarm odour initially but within an hour or so, it is back with a vengeance. I carry wet wipes with me to work and go to the lavatory to freshen up pretty often. This does help GREATLY. I know it's not the 'cure' but it does seem to help me a lot in symptom control since bathing every hour is impossible.
Regarding the halitosis, I have a brown tongue coating which is removed if I scrape the tongue 3 times a day. The odour goes from 5 out of 10 to 1-2. If this is not working for you then it may be that you are using a rubbish scraper. I got someone to smell the scrapings and she told me that is where the smell is coming from. She smelled my mouth afterwatds and said it was MUCH better.
#12
25th September 2009
blue_sky_collector
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 102
Blog Entries: 3
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
I saw somewhere online a trick to see what your breath smells like at its worst.
Take a spoon, run it along your tongue from back to front to scoop the gunk off. Let it dry, then take a whiff.
#13
27th January 2010
carrol
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
You try out oil pulling method. It really works out well. Early morning after you wake up put 1 or 2 spoons of oil to your mouth & goggle for 5 minutes & then brush your teeth. This willl help you out in solving your problem
#14
28th January 2010
bridge
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
lol i had to laugh at this first post - coz i think same about my family, infact im so shocked at times by peoples lack of showering habbits and the fact they don't smell.
I also recommeded oil pullling for teeth - im not sure how much it helps breath , but found it has improved my teeth
bbsux
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Ok not to be jealous or anything but....
My mom hasnt brushed her teeth in 20 years... She barely has any teeth left , the ones she has left are all black.. I know not a pretty picture but she is afraid of dentist.. , Mouthwash?she doesnt even know what it tastes like .... You wanna hear the crazy thing ...she never has BB , and i mean never... She eats any kind of food she wants but i never see anyone do the same thing when she talks as when i talk...
My sister brushes her teeth once a day... NEVER flosses ... has a bad front tooth that is clearly visible as black... GUESS WHAT ! NO BB or any kind of odor.
My mom sister take shower 3-4 times a week ... nobody ever complains or smells anything on them.
Here is my story.. I take a shower every freaking morning before i go out, i make sure my clothes smell nice. I go to dentist for cleaning every 6months. I take care of my caveties. I brush twice a day and floss every night. My breath is shit and i smell bad. I would never want my family to be like me, i love them but what is going on here. This just tells me that brushing and flossing is almost useless when it comes to BB. FACE IT PEOPLE there is something wrong with us inside so for those that are brushing their teeth 4-5 times a day...you are wasting your time!
#2
19th September 2009
Bnow
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 29
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Hi bbsux,
I understand how frustrating it can be to see others not take care of themselves as well as you do and they don't have what it seems to be plaguing you. For me it started with acne. My sister rarely washed her face and yet had no pimples. Now she only takes a bath in the morning and goes to work and comes back home without smelling. I start smelling 15 minutes after showering or brushing my teeth. IT TRULY SUCKS!
Keep your head up! Hopefully TMAU sufferers can speak out to anyone who will listen and raise money so these researchers can be motivated to find a cure.
TTYL,
Bnow
#3
19th September 2009
Harlequin
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 123
Blog Entries: 2
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
bbsux, you do this for yourself and not for others.
It's good to always be hygienic, and trust me having to pluck out every single rotten tooth and having to use dentures is not enjoyable.
And you said it yourself, "not a pretty picture"
#4
19th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Yes, in my experience, smells due to poor hygiene are mainly attributable to tramps who live on the streets/ shelters and also to schizophrenics, sometimes also severly depressed people.
It is also attributable to people from backgrounds where daily bathing/ brushing the teeth is not practiced. It is rarely attributable to people like us. This is just a misperception among people who react angrily this way towards us because they don't know what else to say.
Acne is a very similar example, it is usually not due to any hygiene problem but can be worsened if there is a hygiene problem ASWELL. I used to have terrible acne in my youth and this persisted even into my 30s! I reduced it by avoiding all foods containing sugar, even natural foods like fruit. I also had to stay away from cream, cheese, and any fried food. Have any of you who had acne found you could reduce it by avoiding certain foods? What foods were these?
Arun
#5
19th September 2009
yolievrdrmn
Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 76
Blog Entries: 3
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
White bread for sure. Wheat bread causes no problem. Thank God for Subway and chicfila restaurants. They serve their stuff on wheat. Wish Pizza Hut/dominoes had a wheat bread pizza.
#6
19th September 2009
Bnow
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 29
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Hi All,
I use to believe that eating too much chocolate gave me pimples. However, I found that controlling my hormone levels (with birth control pills) helped my acne. I believe this was the major problem and not necessarily my diet or my hygiene practices. Of course what we eat and how we cleanse our acne prone area affects to some degree if acne continues to appear. But I truly believe it is not the CAUSE of acne. I hope this is the same with TMAU. I believe if we control or eradicate the source of the odor (i.e. our livers inability to metabolize TMA, or the microbes that make TMA) then we will finally see results. Changing our diet and hygiene practices help but definitely doesn’t solve the underlining problem.
Sincerely,
Bnow
#7
20th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Yolie, well thankfully the acne is no longer an issue on my face but I still get the occassional zit on my back
Bnow, hormones definitely play a role in acne, oestrogens generally make it better whereas progesterone makes it worse. This is why the pill (contains oestrogen) generally makes acne better whereas the minipill (contains progesterone) makes it worse.
#8
23rd September 2009
bbsux
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbsux
Ok not to be jealous or anything but....
My mom hasnt brushed her teeth in 20 years... She barely has any teeth left , the ones she has left are all black.. I know not a pretty picture but she is afraid of dentist.. , Mouthwash?she doesnt even know what it tastes like .... You wanna hear the crazy thing ...she never has BB , and i mean never... She eats any kind of food she wants but i never see anyone do the same thing when she talks as when i talk...
My sister brushes her teeth once a day... NEVER flosses ... has a bad front tooth that is clearly visible as black... GUESS WHAT ! NO BB or any kind of odor.
My mom sister take shower 3-4 times a week ... nobody ever complains or smells anything on them.
Here is my story.. I take a shower every freaking morning before i go out, i make sure my clothes smell nice. I go to dentist for cleaning every 6months. I take care of my caveties. I brush twice a day and floss every night. My breath is shit and i smell bad. I would never want my family to be like me, i love them but what is going on here. This just tells me that brushing and flossing is almost useless when it comes to BB. FACE IT PEOPLE there is something wrong with us inside so for those that are brushing their teeth 4-5 times a day...you are wasting your time!
Wow i kinda wrote this while i was frustrated...please forgive me if it seems a bit negative.
As far as acne goes, i used to have acne but it got much much better after i almost stopped eating all sugar and dairy. My face is not 100% clear, but if and when i do get a pimple its a small one and not a big deal.
Honestly acne is the least of my concerns right now...i am focused on getting this bad smell thats pretty much ruining my life.
#9
23rd September 2009
Sharon
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 230
Blog Entries: 9
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
Bbsux it gets very frustrating. It seems for many of us that frequent scrapping the tongue helps more than brushing 5x a day.
Arun can explain it better but I understand it is from certain bacteria that some of us have on the back of our tongues. The bacteria we have acquired there like to live in the tongue where there is no air. The scrapping removes the mucous and trapped food so air gets to them and they can't live and produce odors.
I always wondered if those bacteria produce that thick stinky mucous to protect themselves?
This doesn't replace brushing and flossing because it may be different bacteria that create cavities?
#10
24th September 2009
afunkydamsel
Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 52
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
bbsux:
I feel your pain! Bad breath sucks, totally! I brush, floss and scrape my tongue and nothing works. It is quite discouraging when people react to my breath and body odor before they even get a chance to know me...because before I can get the words out of my mouth my breath is hitting them in the face. LOL! (I know, it's not funny!)
Seriously, don't be sad about it. I know that this easier said than done. But, God made you this way for a reason. Sometimes I think that God wants me to watch and see the folks that shun me because of my odors. He's keeping a log, through me, of all that are naughty (and those that are nice)...for reasons unknown to me. All I have to do is remember that He is on my side as long as I continue to trust Him and do the right things in my life.
As I type this, I remember all the nights I have cried because of all of the ridicule I receive...and I know that living with this is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. And, I have had this body and breath odor for all 42 years of my life and it is still hard as hell to deal with. I guess what I am trying to say is that some days will be better than others. But, whatever you do don't let this thing destroy you or your spirit...no matter what!
I hope that all of that made sense to you. I pray that it helped in some way. And, if nothing else, please know that you are not alone.
Melani.
#11
25th September 2009
scientist42
Site Owner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London
Posts: 725
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
BBsux, I wish I had the answer for treating this kind of internal body odour however I feel it is carried around the body in the blood. Antiperspirants only reduce my underarm odour initially but within an hour or so, it is back with a vengeance. I carry wet wipes with me to work and go to the lavatory to freshen up pretty often. This does help GREATLY. I know it's not the 'cure' but it does seem to help me a lot in symptom control since bathing every hour is impossible.
Regarding the halitosis, I have a brown tongue coating which is removed if I scrape the tongue 3 times a day. The odour goes from 5 out of 10 to 1-2. If this is not working for you then it may be that you are using a rubbish scraper. I got someone to smell the scrapings and she told me that is where the smell is coming from. She smelled my mouth afterwatds and said it was MUCH better.
#12
25th September 2009
blue_sky_collector
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 102
Blog Entries: 3
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
I saw somewhere online a trick to see what your breath smells like at its worst.
Take a spoon, run it along your tongue from back to front to scoop the gunk off. Let it dry, then take a whiff.
#13
27th January 2010
carrol
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
You try out oil pulling method. It really works out well. Early morning after you wake up put 1 or 2 spoons of oil to your mouth & goggle for 5 minutes & then brush your teeth. This willl help you out in solving your problem
#14
28th January 2010
bridge
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: You know whats frustrating...brushing is almost useless
lol i had to laugh at this first post - coz i think same about my family, infact im so shocked at times by peoples lack of showering habbits and the fact they don't smell.
I also recommeded oil pullling for teeth - im not sure how much it helps breath , but found it has improved my teeth