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sweetnsmelly23
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tonsil stones
Some people who suffer from bad breath might have tonsil stones. If you see a white dot in the back of your throat, by your tonsil area, getting a q-tip, putting hydrogen peroxide on it, and then gently massaging the stone until it pops out may help you.HTH someone.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsillolith
video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&rlz=1T4DKUS_ enUS266US266&q=tonsil+stones&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bo-9SYu6HIzanQeA1tSKBg&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&res num=4&ct=title#
#2
16th March 2009
mpdela
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RE: tonsil stones
Hi sweetnsmelly23,
I used to have horrible, huge tonsil stones until I had a tonsillectomy at the age of 18. It was during this time that my breath was at its worst. I think the halitosis originally came from my diet, but the localized tonsil infections produced by these stones and the general state of my tonsils, probably also produced a bacterial overgrowth in the dorsal tongue (the furthest part of the tongue that is almost unreachable with a tongue scraper or toothbrush). Even after my surgery, I think the bacterial overgrowth continued for years until I had to have a massive dose of penicillin due to another condition. Then, my breath odor improved significantly.
Unfortunately, when I ate the wrong foods again for a significant period of time, it seemed to again alter my body's pH as odorous compounds were not metabolized and remained in my body. I think that eventually in the altered pH state, the bacterial overgrowth returned, and the odor got bad again until I happened to coincidently have to take antibiotics again for another condition.
This just seems to be a vicious cycle that I have tended to go through at different intervals of my life, and I just happen to see the pattern on my own throughout the years.
I really believe that the underlying cause is a metabolic condition that doesn't metabolize some foods, meds, or alcohol well, leading to an altered pH, which leads to bacterial overgrowth. In other words, there are multiple causes to my BO, and I believe the same is true with my sons.
#3
16th March 2009
superbenx2000
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 217
RE: tonsil stones
Hello,
I was once victim to those small, round, malodorous stink balls known as tonsiloliths (tonsil stones). I then had my tonsils removed and the tonsiloliths were eradicated.
But I still remember them. Not too many things in the world are equally disgusting, yet interesting.
I am glad to be rid of that problem for good. It was a simple procedure to have done. I remember the doc putting me under and then awaking to realize that I was in a different room. I didn't even know I had the surgery done yet. I had to ask a nurse, groggy as I was from the drugs.
Tonsiloliths are an easily rectified problem that should not be a problem for anyone.
Ben
#4
16th March 2009
sweetnsmelly23
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14
RE: tonsil stones
Maria & Ben
I definitely get those stones, but I don't know if I should get my tonsils removed. I try to remove the stones(with q-tips), the best way I can for now. If it gets really bad in the future and I have some money available then maybe I can get my tonsils removed. sigh when will this end? Thank you both for your helpful words. Maybe someone else out there can rectify their halitosis with this simple procedure.
Maria,
I am curious about your story. Have you ever tried the Candida diet? Would you recommend it? I ask because I do think that there is a correlation between diet and the tonsil stones, but I'm not sure.
I also love reading your posts and think you are truly a blessing with the wealth of information that you provide free of charge!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpdela
Hi sweetnsmelly23,
I used to have horrible, huge tonsil stones until I had a tonsillectomy at the age of 18. It was during this time that my breath was at its worst. I think the halitosis originally came from my diet, but the localized tonsil infections produced by these stones and the general state of my tonsils, probably also produced a bacterial overgrowth in the dorsal tongue (the furthest part of the tongue that is almost unreachable with a tongue scraper or toothbrush). Even after my surgery, I think the bacterial overgrowth continued for years until I had to have a massive dose of penicillin due to another condition. Then, my breath odor improved significantly.
Unfortunately, when I ate the wrong foods again for a significant period of time, it seemed to again alter my body's pH as odorous compounds were not metabolized and remained in my body. I think that eventually in the altered pH state, the bacterial overgrowth returned, and the odor got bad again until I happened to coincidently have to take antibiotics again for another condition.
This just seems to be a vicious cycle that I have tended to go through at different intervals of my life, and I just happen to see the pattern on my own throughout the years.
I really believe that the underlying cause is a metabolic condition that doesn’t metabolize some foods, meds, or alcohol well, leading to an altered pH, which leads to bacterial overgrowth. In other words, there are multiple causes to my BO, and I believe the same is true with my sons.
#5
16th March 2009
mpdela
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,350
Blog Entries: 3
RE: tonsil stones
Thanks sweetnsmelly23, I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts.
I have never been tested for Candida because I really don't think my problem is fungal at all. The reason I think so is because I always respond very well to antibiotics. My doctor has explained to me that there is a balance in the body between fungi and bacteria, and they tend to keep each other in check. When any one of them weakens, the other strengthens.
My problem has actually been life-threatening bacterial overgrowth/infections, and my odor virtually goes away for a while when under IV treatment of the strongest antibiotics in the market followed by oral antibiotics. If I had a Candida problem, I would think that the odor would get worse with the antibiotics.
The only fungal infections I can remember having have been are very few and far between on my feet and one toe nail, and once on my hands from wearing rubber gloves while cleaning, and a few times on my skin that I took care of with washing with Selsum Blue shampoo. I didn't see any correlation between fungal infections and odor. The 3 factors that I have most certainly correlated to my odor are diet (high choline), alcohol, and bacterial infections.
#6
16th March 2009
mpdela
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,350
Blog Entries: 3
RE: tonsil stones
Oh and one more thing about tonsiloliths. My mother told me the other day that she feels guilty for having waited so many years to have my tonsils removed. I had this problem since childhood.
She believes that the problem with these tonsil stones was that it was a breeding ground for bacteria (and possibly fungus). She fears that it may explain why I developed mononucleosis, and eventually the auto-immune disease, rheumatoid arthritis.
I think there may be something to her theory, although I recognize that she tends to feel guilty, and will continue to feel responsible for my sister and my illnesses. I disagree with her, she's been the best mom! But I wouldn't let this condition of tonsiloliths persist for long if you fear it might be a breading ground for infection. This overgrowth could very well spread to your dorsal tongue and your sinuses, which may in the long run produce this uncontrollable halitosis.
Just my opinion.
sweetnsmelly23
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14
tonsil stones
Some people who suffer from bad breath might have tonsil stones. If you see a white dot in the back of your throat, by your tonsil area, getting a q-tip, putting hydrogen peroxide on it, and then gently massaging the stone until it pops out may help you.HTH someone.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsillolith
video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&rlz=1T4DKUS_ enUS266US266&q=tonsil+stones&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bo-9SYu6HIzanQeA1tSKBg&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&res num=4&ct=title#
#2
16th March 2009
mpdela
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,350
Blog Entries: 3
RE: tonsil stones
Hi sweetnsmelly23,
I used to have horrible, huge tonsil stones until I had a tonsillectomy at the age of 18. It was during this time that my breath was at its worst. I think the halitosis originally came from my diet, but the localized tonsil infections produced by these stones and the general state of my tonsils, probably also produced a bacterial overgrowth in the dorsal tongue (the furthest part of the tongue that is almost unreachable with a tongue scraper or toothbrush). Even after my surgery, I think the bacterial overgrowth continued for years until I had to have a massive dose of penicillin due to another condition. Then, my breath odor improved significantly.
Unfortunately, when I ate the wrong foods again for a significant period of time, it seemed to again alter my body's pH as odorous compounds were not metabolized and remained in my body. I think that eventually in the altered pH state, the bacterial overgrowth returned, and the odor got bad again until I happened to coincidently have to take antibiotics again for another condition.
This just seems to be a vicious cycle that I have tended to go through at different intervals of my life, and I just happen to see the pattern on my own throughout the years.
I really believe that the underlying cause is a metabolic condition that doesn't metabolize some foods, meds, or alcohol well, leading to an altered pH, which leads to bacterial overgrowth. In other words, there are multiple causes to my BO, and I believe the same is true with my sons.
#3
16th March 2009
superbenx2000
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 217
RE: tonsil stones
Hello,
I was once victim to those small, round, malodorous stink balls known as tonsiloliths (tonsil stones). I then had my tonsils removed and the tonsiloliths were eradicated.
But I still remember them. Not too many things in the world are equally disgusting, yet interesting.
I am glad to be rid of that problem for good. It was a simple procedure to have done. I remember the doc putting me under and then awaking to realize that I was in a different room. I didn't even know I had the surgery done yet. I had to ask a nurse, groggy as I was from the drugs.
Tonsiloliths are an easily rectified problem that should not be a problem for anyone.
Ben
#4
16th March 2009
sweetnsmelly23
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14
RE: tonsil stones
Maria & Ben
I definitely get those stones, but I don't know if I should get my tonsils removed. I try to remove the stones(with q-tips), the best way I can for now. If it gets really bad in the future and I have some money available then maybe I can get my tonsils removed. sigh when will this end? Thank you both for your helpful words. Maybe someone else out there can rectify their halitosis with this simple procedure.
Maria,
I am curious about your story. Have you ever tried the Candida diet? Would you recommend it? I ask because I do think that there is a correlation between diet and the tonsil stones, but I'm not sure.
I also love reading your posts and think you are truly a blessing with the wealth of information that you provide free of charge!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpdela
Hi sweetnsmelly23,
I used to have horrible, huge tonsil stones until I had a tonsillectomy at the age of 18. It was during this time that my breath was at its worst. I think the halitosis originally came from my diet, but the localized tonsil infections produced by these stones and the general state of my tonsils, probably also produced a bacterial overgrowth in the dorsal tongue (the furthest part of the tongue that is almost unreachable with a tongue scraper or toothbrush). Even after my surgery, I think the bacterial overgrowth continued for years until I had to have a massive dose of penicillin due to another condition. Then, my breath odor improved significantly.
Unfortunately, when I ate the wrong foods again for a significant period of time, it seemed to again alter my body's pH as odorous compounds were not metabolized and remained in my body. I think that eventually in the altered pH state, the bacterial overgrowth returned, and the odor got bad again until I happened to coincidently have to take antibiotics again for another condition.
This just seems to be a vicious cycle that I have tended to go through at different intervals of my life, and I just happen to see the pattern on my own throughout the years.
I really believe that the underlying cause is a metabolic condition that doesn’t metabolize some foods, meds, or alcohol well, leading to an altered pH, which leads to bacterial overgrowth. In other words, there are multiple causes to my BO, and I believe the same is true with my sons.
#5
16th March 2009
mpdela
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,350
Blog Entries: 3
RE: tonsil stones
Thanks sweetnsmelly23, I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts.
I have never been tested for Candida because I really don't think my problem is fungal at all. The reason I think so is because I always respond very well to antibiotics. My doctor has explained to me that there is a balance in the body between fungi and bacteria, and they tend to keep each other in check. When any one of them weakens, the other strengthens.
My problem has actually been life-threatening bacterial overgrowth/infections, and my odor virtually goes away for a while when under IV treatment of the strongest antibiotics in the market followed by oral antibiotics. If I had a Candida problem, I would think that the odor would get worse with the antibiotics.
The only fungal infections I can remember having have been are very few and far between on my feet and one toe nail, and once on my hands from wearing rubber gloves while cleaning, and a few times on my skin that I took care of with washing with Selsum Blue shampoo. I didn't see any correlation between fungal infections and odor. The 3 factors that I have most certainly correlated to my odor are diet (high choline), alcohol, and bacterial infections.
#6
16th March 2009
mpdela
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,350
Blog Entries: 3
RE: tonsil stones
Oh and one more thing about tonsiloliths. My mother told me the other day that she feels guilty for having waited so many years to have my tonsils removed. I had this problem since childhood.
She believes that the problem with these tonsil stones was that it was a breeding ground for bacteria (and possibly fungus). She fears that it may explain why I developed mononucleosis, and eventually the auto-immune disease, rheumatoid arthritis.
I think there may be something to her theory, although I recognize that she tends to feel guilty, and will continue to feel responsible for my sister and my illnesses. I disagree with her, she's been the best mom! But I wouldn't let this condition of tonsiloliths persist for long if you fear it might be a breading ground for infection. This overgrowth could very well spread to your dorsal tongue and your sinuses, which may in the long run produce this uncontrollable halitosis.
Just my opinion.