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Post by joliepitt on Jul 28, 2011 6:46:53 GMT
How does it smell? Mine? It used to be a combination of fishy and fecal before I discovered a tonsil stone. Now, I'm left with this fishy breath and my friend even asked me how many times I urinate daily. I guess it's the same ammonia smell that my sweat gives off. You think this fishy breath is related to kidney problems?
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mpdela
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Post by mpdela on Jul 31, 2011 14:58:04 GMT
Hi joliepitt, It's good that you discovered a tonsil stone, or tonsillolith. Normally, once you have developed one tonsillolith, that means that you have crypts or crevasses in which these will develop again. Tonsil stones have been referred to as "death aroma" because the are made of yellow-white calcium salts formed by trapped foods, which make a perfect breading ground for sulfur-producing bacteria which give off a rotten egg odor. So, in order to attempt to control your halitosis, you might want to consult with an Otolaryngologist (Ears, nose, and throat doctor). Regarding ammonia smells and possible kidney problems, if you have this concern, you should have a checkup with your doctor. There is a study done by Harvard in which they monitored breath ammonia and trimethylamine using a Selected-ion-flow-tube mass spectroscopy (SIFT-MS) on patients who are on haemodialysis as a guide for treatment. However, once your tonsilloliths are controlled, and you have been told by your doctor that your kidneys are working properly, then you should do the TMAU test to see if you have Primary (genetic) or Secondary (acquired - usually TMA-producing bacterial overgrowth in the gut) TMAU. Trimethylamine (TMA) is a colorless, hygroscopic, and flammable simple amine with a typical fishy odor in low concentrations and an ammonia-like odor in higher concentrations. So if your body is secreting excess TMA in your saliva and alveolar breath, then your breath odor can change from fish odor to ammonia, and perhaps combined with your tonsilloliths rotten egg odor or "death odor" it could eventually be identified by others as fecal odor, sewage or garbage, as may sufferers claim they suffer from. I hope this gives you a better understanding of how local and systemic halitosis comes to be. MarĂa
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Post by joliepitt on Aug 13, 2011 9:24:40 GMT
Hi mpdela. Here in Philippines we don't have TMAU test and I bet nobody knows about this disease. I did have a history of UTI back when I was 7 or 8 but my breath then was fine until I reached puberty. Now, my body odors are controlled but my breath is unstoppable. My tongue is pink yet my saliva smells like fish when it dries up. No one though ever complained about rotten, garbage smells from my mouth so I don't think this is genetic TMAU. However, it could really be an infection in my esophagus which I will have to rule out with a doctor or it's just my digestive function that's really slow.
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