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Nov 18, 2011 13:10:56 GMT
Post by ismylifeover on Nov 18, 2011 13:10:56 GMT
I'M NOT EATING ANYTHING I HAVEN'T EATEN FOR 5 DAYS HOW CAN I STILL POSSIBLY SMELL?!???????
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Nov 18, 2011 20:55:15 GMT
Post by sickandtired on Nov 18, 2011 20:55:15 GMT
I went for 4 1/2 days one time on a water fast and stank all the way through it. I think it's a build up of toxins and our bodies are trying to eliminate them. Right now I'm fasting for 24 hours out of 48 and for the last four days have eliminated dairy. I'm crossing my fingers and waiting to see if it will help.
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Nov 19, 2011 12:58:59 GMT
Post by ismylifeover on Nov 19, 2011 12:58:59 GMT
yeah I didn't smell yesterday I don't think. I think i'll have to do the water fast 2/3 days a week from now on
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Nov 19, 2011 23:11:04 GMT
Post by Lisa M on Nov 19, 2011 23:11:04 GMT
What have you been drinking? Have you been eating ANYTHING during those 5 days? Even chewing gum, mints, candy, ANYTHING?
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Nov 20, 2011 19:17:20 GMT
Post by trundlebee on Nov 20, 2011 19:17:20 GMT
soups, home made. no sugar at all lemon drink that was it
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Nov 23, 2011 18:29:37 GMT
Post by Lisa M on Nov 23, 2011 18:29:37 GMT
What kind of lemon drink? Also, are you taking any medications, supplements or vitamins?
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Nov 23, 2011 20:52:14 GMT
Post by jcc34 on Nov 23, 2011 20:52:14 GMT
It may take time for odorous compounds to leave your body and if you're bacterias are rebalancing you might even smell worse whilst your body detoxes. That said I wouldn't really recommend a long fluid fast, unless you've worked out an experiment that might help you figure your triggers out.
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Nov 25, 2011 12:09:26 GMT
Post by malory on Nov 25, 2011 12:09:26 GMT
sickandtired, is my life over This is very dangerous stuff - fasting for such a long time. I have freshly juiced raw beetroot and carrots in the morning and then fast for 2 or 3 hours maximum. After that 2-hour period my smell worsens even though i continue to fast. I have not much body fat and start to shiver a bit if I fast for too long. Our bodies use our fat stores but I think, in the absence of fat, our bodies kind of eat themselves and start to look for other sources of energy like the protein in our muscles. Atkins diet people living on protein develop halitosis because their bodies are crying out for carbohydrates. Look up ketosis: If the diet is changed from a highly glycemic diet to a diet that does not provide sufficient carbohydrate to replenish glycogen stores, the body goes through a set of stages to enter ketosis. During the initial stages of this process, blood glucose levels are maintained through gluconeogenesis, and the adult brain does not burn ketones; however, the brain makes immediate use of ketones for lipid synthesis in the brain. After about 48 hours of this process, the brain starts burning ketones in order to more directly use the energy from the fat stores that are being depended upon, and to reserve the glucose only for its absolute needs, thus avoiding the depletion of the body's protein store in the muscles.
I don't know what the answer is to all this but fresh vegetable juice may at least provide some nutritional help for our poor bodies. We must try not to self-harm while managing these conditions. Please join in any raising awareness initiatives, sign the MEBO petition and fight for your right to live as any other human being. www.bloodbornebodyodorandhalitosis.com/2011/06/raising-awareness-and-research-funding.html
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Nov 25, 2011 18:36:57 GMT
Post by Lisa M on Nov 25, 2011 18:36:57 GMT
The juice of beets and carrots are very high in sugar, so it doesn't surprise me that your odor was worse after drinking it. No one should starve themselves at any time. What you need is a normal diet minus sugars. A little fresh fruit is okay but no juice, fruit or vegetable. Otherwise try to eat whole foods that are unprocessed because most processed foods contain some type of sugars. Even calorie free sweeteners cannot be digested by those of us with sugar malabsorption. That also includes mints, candies, sugar-free gum, etc. I get a bad reaction from whole chocolate, even if it's unsweetened bitter chocolate, but not from powdered, unsweetened cocoa. I love to mash up a banana, add a tablespoon of cocoa and put this banana chocolate sauce on toast. Yum! You have to be creative and try different things.
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Nov 28, 2011 20:12:19 GMT
Post by Arun Nagrath on Nov 28, 2011 20:12:19 GMT
Ismylifeover, sickandtired, If you click on the following link, you can see that odour problems are very common in people when they do fasting:- www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=rahmadan&oq=rahmadan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l2323l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0#pq=rahmadan&hl=en&cp=11&gs_id=l&xhr=t&q=ramadan+smelly+breath&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&biw=1199&bih=674&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=ramadan+sme&aq=0&aqi=g1g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=bd757c80776be26e In starvation, your body tries to maintain a constant supply of glucose and energy sources to the brain to stop you from fainting. If there is no food coming in then it can only do this by breaking down carbohydrate initially (glycogen) then later it breaks down protein and fat. As Malory mentioned, the breakdown of protein in starvation leads to ketone bodies which cause bad breath etc. I can understand the thinking that if food is causing the odour then stopping the food should stop the odour. But it doesn't work that way because the body starts digesting muscle protein and makes you stink worse than if you were eating red meat. I am trying to rack my way to find ways how we can use this site to help you guys. Unfortunately, most of the information on reducing odour through diet is all about reducing choline to treat TMAU. Such information is really not that useful since most people (9 out of 10) I know who have TMAU smell nothing like trimethylamine. I have been racking my brains to see how we can benefit our Group and I think doing Case studies may help. Our problem is this group contains people with all kinds of odours so the solutions people list are all in jumbled order. If we had someone describing their odour (eg faecal odour, garbage odour, onion odour etc) then telling us all the foods that made it better or worse, this would be a real start. Also seeing all the other things that helped or made it worse. What do you guys think? Hey Lisa M, Ben, and Kristen, would any of you object to me doing a Case Study on each of you? You don't need to worry about typing lots of information, the information is all in our previous forum's Archives and I can dig it all out and present it here with your permission. If so, please let me know your Usernames on the past forum BodyOdorSupport.com; also, perhaps you've got your past messaged archived already on your own computer? Do let me know anyway. Arun
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Nov 28, 2011 20:30:12 GMT
Post by hoping44 on Nov 28, 2011 20:30:12 GMT
This is to all those who advise not to fast. I for one am a big advocate of fasting - done properly. Fasting does help the body to detox, and they've done studies on mice that show that the mice that were fasted lived longer than the ones who didn't. There is a misconception that you have to constantly eat to maintain health. Our bodies have actually evolved to survive during periods of fasting. Before farming, fasting was a regular part of life.
That being said, what Arun says is right. During the initial phase of fasting, the body breaks down muscle. However, after that initial phase, the body then starts to use its fat storage. The reason this is beneficial is because it is in the fat tissue that many toxins are stored. When the fat is broken up, the body is able to release these toxins from the body. This may make you smell worse at first, and feel a little sick, but your body benefits from having the toxins expelled.
If you're going to fast, research it first. There are plenty of books on it.
Just my two cents.
~Hoping
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Nov 28, 2011 22:48:59 GMT
Post by Lisa M on Nov 28, 2011 22:48:59 GMT
Hi Arun, I don't mind if you do a case study on me. If you go all the way back to the beginning it may be hard to follow since my understanding of this condition has evolved so much since then. It has been over a decade since we started. Can you believe it's been that long? I joined the first internet support group for our condition in 1999. Our understanding since then has come a long way, but we still have a long way to go, and we still haven't gotten any help with research. I wish everyone got the same good results I get when I go sugar free. Problem with me is I just can't stick with it for long periods of time because I love sweets. Maybe your case studies will help others to have a better understanding. Knowing is half the battle!
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Dec 12, 2011 19:28:24 GMT
Post by Arun Nagrath on Dec 12, 2011 19:28:24 GMT
That's great Lisa. When I get time, I will collect all your postings into one post then gradually change things with time and finally do your Case Presentation. I think the connection with sugar may be more common than it appears on this site.
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Dec 18, 2011 14:43:27 GMT
Post by giobbe81 on Dec 18, 2011 14:43:27 GMT
I am trying to rack my way to find ways how we can use this site to help you guys. Unfortunately, most of the information on reducing odour through diet is all about reducing choline to treat TMAU. Such information is really not that useful since most people (9 out of 10) I know who have TMAU smell nothing like trimethylamine. I have been racking my brains to see how we can benefit our Group and I think doing Case studies may help. Our problem is this group contains people with all kinds of odours so the solutions people list are all in jumbled order. If we had someone describing their odour (eg faecal odour, garbage odour, onion odour etc) then telling us all the foods that made it better or worse, this would be a real start. Also seeing all the other things that helped or made it worse. What do you guys think? Hey Lisa M, Ben, and Kristen, would any of you object to me doing a Case Study on each of you? Arun HI Arun. I think that your idea called "case studies" is similar to my idea I have called "bodyodor user profiles", and that I expose in my post: breathandbodyodour.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=346 I think each user should create a post where he describes his bodyodor profile, answering to the list of questions you find in my post: breathandbodyodour.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=347Each user can add new relevant questions to this list of questions. bye, giobbe81
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